What's your next brew

BarbarianBrewer said:
My brain tell me the exact same things @RoadRoach. But, like I tell my kids, you can't say you don't like it until you tried it. So a friend bought me a bottle of Duchesse De Bourgogne. It's a Flanders Red Ale and I liked it...almost. At another time I tried a Gueuze. At least I think it was a Gueuze. Anyway I hated it! Waaayyyyy too sour for my delicate taste buds. But your taste buds may be made of sterner stuff. So, give a sour a try. Maybe someone on the forum who actually likes sours could advise you on a good "starter" sour beer to try.
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Gosse is another milder sour style you might like.
 
BarbarianBrewer said:
My brain tell me the exact same things @RoadRoach. But, like I tell my kids, you can't say you don't like it until you tried it. So a friend bought me a bottle of Duchesse De Bourgogne. It's a Flanders Red Ale and I liked it...almost. At another time I tried a Gueuze. At least I think it was a Gueuze. Anyway I hated it! Waaayyyyy too sour for my delicate taste buds. But your taste buds may be made of sterner stuff. So, give a sour a try. Maybe someone on the forum who actually likes sours could advise you on a good "starter" sour beer to try.
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Well, I DID say I needed to try one to see what the fuss is about, but who's the lucky soul that gonna try to push me out that door? Better put on the chute, too, or wear tear-away clothing. I'm not real fond of sour stuff, period. Lemon drops are about my limit on sour, and they're mostly sugar. I rate sour right up there with the taste of bell pepper (which I have tried [involuntarily] many times and I STILL don't like it). Bell pepper to me is a waste of the dirt it takes to grow them (says me that is growing them for the missus in our garden). Life is full of contradictions, indeed.

I'm just thinking it'll be some kind of quantum leap from a malty yummy stout or brown to a sour Belgian. Maybe I'll just jump off the bottom step of the airplane with it sitting on the tarmac and the engines not running. Does that count? I had my first Guiness many years ago, and said I didn't like it. I went to the Guiness brewery in Dublin in 2016 where it couldn't be much fresher, and I STILL don't like it. BUT, I tried it, at least twice, as is pretty much my mantra with most things that I'm curious about. And sour beer, which was originally hopped to prevent it from being sour, is very curious indeed. Jumping out of a perfectly operational airplane isn't curious. It's insane.
 
I've not tasted a sour beer "intentionally" but thinking of it from a food and cooking perspective we use sweet and sour all the time in cooking why wouldn't it work in the beverage world.

I think it's a ballance thing with the souring and I can understand this would be the artwork of a great brewer when they nail it.
 
Trialben said:
I've not tasted a sour beer "intentionally" but thinking of it from a food and cooking perspective we use sweet and sour all the time in cooking why wouldn't it work in the beverage world.

I think it's a ballance thing with the souring and I can understand this would be the artwork of a great brewer when they nail it.
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And that balance thing is EXACTLY what worries me. Balance to me might mean something totally different to you. My beer tasting expertise is a lot more limited than a majority of folks in here. But, I'll know pretty quickly if I like it. I need to hit up one of the local microbreweries and do one of their mixed cartons to try more different brews. I got pretty fond of stouts and browns in this hobby, and simple brews like Blue Moon knock-offs for the higher quality and better taste over commercial stuff. But I'd hardly call myself a connoisseur in any measurement. Some of the brewers around here think it isn't beer if the bitterness won't peel paint. BLECH! I'm learning more about the IBU/FG balance as I do this, and trying to find the number that works for me. It sure is fun taking all the measurements!
 
RoadRoach said:
And that balance thing is EXACTLY what worries me. Balance to me might mean something totally different to you. My beer tasting expertise is a lot more limited than a majority of folks in here. But, I'll know pretty quickly if I like it. I need to hit up one of the local microbreweries and do one of their mixed cartons to try more different brews. I got pretty fond of stouts and browns in this hobby, and simple brews like Blue Moon knock-offs for the higher quality and better taste over commercial stuff. But I'd hardly call myself a connoisseur in any measurement. Some of the brewers around here think it isn't beer if the bitterness won't peel paint. BLECH! I'm learning more about the IBU/FG balance as I do this, and trying to find the number that works for me. It sure is fun taking all the measurements!
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Yeah ballance is subjective of course take for instance my koombutcha I brew the longer you leave it the more acidity and sorta tangyness it becomes.
When I first started making it I'd err on the sweet side these days I love me some as you put it Roadie "Tastebud slapping" acidity that gets my mouth salivating afterwards :p.
It's kinda ballanced how I like it.

As a homebrewer we can adjust it how we like it for us.

But as a commercial brewer it must become difficult trying to meet the masses expectations on a beverage you have created.

Now that's something that's near impossible to do - you can't please everyone I say so why not please yourself :D
 
I've had a couple of sours and I quite liked them. I don't know the make. They were on tap.
I found them real refreshing on a hot day ;)
@Minbari: pls keep us posted on how it goes.

The styles I dislike are dubbels and quadruppels. Gotta be the caramel that doesn't do it for me.
I thought I didn't like bock beer either, but I can drink them these days.
Maybe my taste buds are growing up :p
 
RoadRoach said:
There's just something inherently wrong with intentionally souring something. I mean, that's exactly why IPA's were created, to prevent souring before it got to India. It seems sorta like jumping out of a perfectly good airplane. Ok, I get it if the plane is on fire and falling, but still flying and running good? Nah, not happenin', someone's going with me if they throw me out, or at least one appendage. I REALLY do not like sour milk, and can't imagine it tasting good in a beer. I could be completely wrong, but something in my brain says "DON'T DO IT!!!!". I really must try at least one sour to see if I can challenge my inner voices.
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I normally do not like sours, but if something blueberryish, I can handle it. Some of the local places have made a limey Gose or two that are not bad. I couldn't drink a whole pint, but as a taster, quite interesting.
 
RoadRoach said:
There's just something inherently wrong with intentionally souring something. I mean, that's exactly why IPA's were created, to prevent souring before it got to India. It seems sorta like jumping out of a perfectly good airplane. Ok, I get it if the plane is on fire and falling, but still flying and running good? Nah, not happenin', someone's going with me if they throw me out, or at least one appendage. I REALLY do not like sour milk, and can't imagine it tasting good in a beer. I could be completely wrong, but something in my brain says "DON'T DO IT!!!!". I really must try at least one sour to see if I can challenge my inner voices.
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I thought sours sounded nasty until I tried one. Really enjoy them, really from sip 1
 
My next brew is the one I’m currently mashing, which is the 2nd Q Community Brew - @Zefram Beach Brew.
So far, so good. Wort has a nice sweetness.
After that I’m giving strong consideration to @Trialben Ginger Ninger in all grain.
I want to keep my pipeline filled.
 
Zambezi Special said:
I've had a couple of sours and I quite liked them. I don't know the make. They were on tap.
I found them real refreshing on a hot day ;)
@Minbari: pls keep us posted on how it goes.

The styles I dislike are dubbels and quadruppels. Gotta be the caramel that doesn't do it for me.
I thought I didn't like bock beer either, but I can drink them these days.
Maybe my taste buds are growing up :p
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I’ve been sampling some bocks lately too. I’ve heard the cowboys in the movies asking for a bock in the saloons, so I figured I’d try it. Kinda grows on me. But so does fungus, LOL.
 
Donoroto said:
Generally not a fan of sours, but, like a nice lemonade they can be refreshing if done well. Super sours are just vinegar and alcohol.
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Lemonade here is a different animal much like beer when you order it in a different country. Lemonade in Australia is what we’d call 7-up or sprite, but Squash is what they call lemonade. I can do lemonade [squash for Ben’s benefit], heavy on the sugar. Ain’t nothing like a big ol’ jug of Country Time on a hot day out in the yard. It’s how I survived working for a swimming pool construction company in the late 70’s before Gatorade was a thing.
 
RoadRoach said:
Lemonade here is a different animal much like beer when you order it in a different country. Lemonade in Australia is what we’d call 7-up or sprite, but Squash is what they call lemonade. I can do lemonade [squash for Ben’s benefit], heavy on the sugar. Ain’t nothing like a big ol’ jug of Country Time on a hot day out in the yard. It’s how I survived working for a swimming pool construction company in the late 70’s before Gatorade was a thing.
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I thought where you are, you would do the same thing as me on a summer day: make sun tea. Mine is unsweet. It is expensive, but I like kombucha too. I don't do much of the sugary stuff anymore. Kombucha has sugar, but it isn't a whole bunch.
 
Sandy Feet said:
I thought where you are, you would do the same thing as me on a summer day: make sun tea. Mine is unsweet. It is expensive, but I like kombucha too. I don't do much of the sugary stuff anymore. Kombucha has sugar, but it isn't a whole bunch.
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Yeah, we do make sun tea, too, but tea isn't the smartest thing to drink when the temperature and humidity are both 95. Tea is a diuretic, and can quickly cause dehydration. When I'm working outside these days, I tend to drink LARGE quantities of water. I have to.

I developed asthma sometime in my 50's after a severe respiratory infection and pneumonia. I only have a few triggers, but getting slightly dehydrated is one of them. It escalates VERY quickly if I don't get some cold water in me and drop my core temperature before I get a full on attack. Rarely do I ever have an attack in winter, especially if I'm outside. So, temperature is likely a factor as well, but I don't think heat has ever triggered an attack. It certainly makes one worse, though.

So, big jugs of cold water are always close when I'm working outside, with an inhaler if I don't stop coughing quick. I love tea, but not quite as sweet as what is considered 'Southern' tea. I've NEVER had a drop of kombucha in my life. No clue what it even tastes like nor why I would drink it.
 
RoadRoach said:
Yeah, we do make sun tea, too, but tea isn't the smartest thing to drink when the temperature and humidity are both 95. Tea is a diuretic, and can quickly cause dehydration. When I'm working outside these days, I tend to drink LARGE quantities of water. I have to.

I developed asthma sometime in my 50's after a severe respiratory infection and pneumonia. I only have a few triggers, but getting slightly dehydrated is one of them. It escalates VERY quickly if I don't get some cold water in me and drop my core temperature before I get a full on attack. Rarely do I ever have an attack in winter, especially if I'm outside. So, temperature is likely a factor as well, but I don't think heat has ever triggered an attack. It certainly makes one worse, though.

So, big jugs of cold water are always close when I'm working outside, with an inhaler if I don't stop coughing quick. I love tea, but not quite as sweet as what is considered 'Southern' tea. I've NEVER had a drop of kombucha in my life. No clue what it even tastes like nor why I would drink it.
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You probably wouldn't like no bootch RoadRoach especially homemade:p

If ya don't like sour you won't like koombutcha
 
Gotta be careful Roach, if you tend to suffer from dehydration!
But don't only drink water. You need to replenish electrolytes.
Worse suffering I have seen in my pretty harsh climate is when people only drink water.....
 
I try not to screw around with that either. If it gets hot, and I start feeling dizzy, LOTS of water. I do kind of like fizzy, so I also like the carbonated water and kombucha. If you can get some decent coconut water, that helps quite a bit too.
It gets muggier than hell here in the summer, and we try to do everything early to avoid not only the heat, but the afternoon storms.
 
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