Two questions HVM.I made a German Pils with some ideas from this study. The yeast had to be built up to get the right pitch. So as mentioned in the previous post, I made a 2 liter 1.018 starter with 8-10 grams of Fermaid O. I used a defusion stone and aerated with pure oxygen for 90-120 seconds. I let it spin for 12-14 hours and then stop the stir plate and let the yeast stay at room temperature for another 10-12 hours. After 24 hours total, it was crashed cooled for another 24 hours.
I then decanted the yeast from the first starter and pitched it into another 4 liter starter. I used the same method as above, the only difference was this next step was at 1.036. I then crashed cooled it and waited 2 days for brew day.
The yeast I built up was @ 2 months old, so I wasn't sure what to expect. I pitched it at 48F (8.9C) and let it free rise to 52F (11.1C). The lag time was one of the shortest I have ever had at that temperature, @15 hours. Typically from that yeast (Wyeast 2124) I would expect 18 -22 hours. The fermentation started before the beer could come up to 52F. The other thing I noticed was that there was little or no sulfur during the entire fermentation, typically I would get this foul odor @ 2-3 days into the fermentation.
The beer hit terminal gravity about 1-2 days earlier than previous batches and the AA was just above 80%. I would normally see 78-79%, so not a big difference, but still an improvement. The beer itself is very good, very clean and well attenuated, delicious actually. I hope to get it into a competition in late January to see how well it does. So far I can see where this is an improvement over my past beers.
I brewed another beer using this same starter technique this weekend. I used fresh 2124 this time and brewed a Helles. The lag time was incredibly short, 10 hours at 47-48F (8.5C). This one is presently churning away at 51F (10.5C), and is producing some sulfur, but still less than what I normally see.
I think the addition of FAN in the form of Fermaid-O is producing healthy yeast in higher yeast counts that have excellent vitality. I don't believe that it is practical or necessary to get the yeast into a aerobic state to produce very healthy yeast. To me the main take away is to get the yeast the proper nutrients for growth (FAN) and build up their sterol/lipids reserves (oxygen) to able to thrive in a less than ideal environment of fermenting beer. Now I want to know if I can reduce the amount of yeast extract and still see the same results.
Thanks again Mark for bringing this to the forum, it's been a great lesson in yeast health and biology.
Did you areate you batch before yeast pitch with pure o2?
Also did you add any yeast nutrient to you wort main batch?
Pretty cool results.
I'll be using plenty of nutrient now I don't have all the goodies barley provides.
Gluten free grains also have less nitrogen FAN % than barley.