Kellerbier help

[Zambi]

What's "IM"?

 

[Brew Cat]

What's "IM"?

Irish moss

 

[Zambi]

Irish moss

Thanks
That makes sense

 

[Blackmuse]

I drink most of my lagers young (like keller beir) and often enjoy them start to finish. I do love watching them clear and enjoy the small nuances of the taste as it mellows. I did a late oktoberfest last year and did not like it young (changed my procss to see the effects and was disappointed - but also convinced that decoction matters!) - lol. I still have it on tap and MAN - it is 10x better with some lagering time! Took nearly 12 weeks to get it to the point where I LOVE it. So, I now know that if I shorten my brew day for an Oktoberfest, I need to lengthen my lagering time... lol

 

[Brew Cat]

I drink most of my lagers young (like keller beir) and often enjoy them start to finish. I do love watching them clear and enjoy the small nuances of the taste as it mellows. I did a late oktoberfest last year and did not like it young (changed my procss to see the effects and was disappointed - but also convinced that decoction matters!) - lol. I still have it on tap and MAN - it is 10x better with some lagering time! Took nearly 12 weeks to get it to the point where I LOVE it. So, I now know that if I shorten my brew day for an Oktoberfest, I need to lengthen my lagering time... lol

I haven't mad an Ofest lately but when I did I always liked the better after lagering. Maybe its the lightness of the pilsner malt

 

[HighVoltageMan!]

Took nearly 12 weeks to get it to the point where I LOVE it. So, I now know that if I shorten my brew day for an Oktoberfest, I need to lengthen my lagering time... lol

I have found that too. I have had beers that were "meh" and went to spectacular in 4-6 weeks of lagering. They're even better when they start out really good and lager for 6 weeks or so. Delicious!

 

[The Brew Mentor]

I haven't enjoyed drinking the young, "Keller" versions of a lager.
To me I always get a bite in them that's not pleasant.
Even using Biofine to speed up the process helps, but I still think the lagers are best after lagering for a while.
We'll be making our Festbier at the shop in the next month to be ready to serve in September.

 

[Brew Cat]

I haven't enjoyed drinking the young, "Keller" versions of a lager.
To me I always get a bite in them that's not pleasant.
Even using Biofine to speed up the process helps, but I still think the lagers are best after lagering for a while.
We'll be making our Festbier at the shop in the next month to be ready to serve in September.

This is why I think yeast choice may play a part. When I taste most IPA or other ale yeast I'll get that yeast bite. Even some larger. But this beer I am not. Wonder why. Maybe the hop yeast combo? Speaking of the yeast this particular beer was pitched with 1 sachet diamond lager and 1 sachet MJ Bohemian lager. Only because that's all I had. Now I'm curious about that

 

[Megary]

This is why I think yeast choice may play a part. When I taste most IPA or other ale yeast I'll get that yeast bite. Even some larger. But this beer I am not. Wonder why. Maybe the hop yeast combo? Speaking of the yeast this particular beer was pitched with 1 sachet diamond lager and 1 sachet MJ Bohemian lager. Only because that's all I had. Now I'm curious about that

Interesting. I don’t think we as homebrewers do enough co-pitching. I understand why as it would probably lead to open and wasted packs of yeast, but it seems to me that pitching the right combination of yeasts could help elevate certain beers. I wish more manufacturers would offer mixed packs, like WLP080 Cream Ale yeast.

 

[Sandy Feet]

I pitch two anyway, but I haven't tried mixing them. It might be fun in a Belgian. As much as I like the idea of getting into a lager as quick as possible, they are a hell of a lot better when they sit for a little bit.