I drink most of my lagers young (like keller beir) and often enjoy them start to finish. I do love watching them clear and enjoy the small nuances of the taste as it mellows. I did a late oktoberfest last year and did not like it young (changed my procss to see the effects and was disappointed - but also convinced that decoction matters!) - lol. I still have it on tap and MAN - it is 10x better with some lagering time! Took nearly 12 weeks to get it to the point where I LOVE it. So, I now know that if I shorten my brew day for an Oktoberfest, I need to lengthen my lagering time... lol