How "great" are The Great Lakes?

Craigerrr said:
Wow! That is a cool history!
Thanks for sharing that @SabreSteve
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+1!
"The Mohawk river today is largely canalized and is largely part of the canal instead of running parallel to it." was especially cool to read, because that is exactly what creates Moss "Island", which was a major part of the local (only!) climbing spot (Little Falls, NY) close to Utica, NY, while I was a student there.
(most of the rock faces are natural, but the fact it is an island is due to the canal)
 
The north and south shores of Lakes Erie, and Ontario are "Wine Regions", this area is roughly the same latitude as Bordeaux France, and the wine region of northern California. The fertile soil, and moderate climate are ideal for vineyards. Thee quarters of the grapes grown in Canada are grown in the Niagara Peninsula. Most of these vineyards are either in, or close to the historic community of Niagara on the Lake. New York State ranks third among US States in grape production after California, and Washington. The largest wine regions in New York State are the Finger Lakes, and Long Island.

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sbaclimber said:
+1!
"The Mohawk river today is largely canalized and is largely part of the canal instead of running parallel to it." was especially cool to read, because that is exactly what creates Moss "Island", which was a major part of the local (only!) climbing spot (Little Falls, NY) close to Utica, NY, while I was a student there.
(most of the rock faces are natural, but the fact it is an island is due to the canal)
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Never been out that way other than driving through but I've been wanting to get back into climbing for a while though. I never was super super into it but I used to climb up through some of the smaller gorges down in the Finger Lakes.
Craigerrr said:
The north and south shores of Lakes Erie, and Ontario are "Wine Regions", this area is roughly the same latitude as Bordeaux France, and the wine region of northern California. The fertile soil, and moderate climate are ideal for vineyards. Thee quarters of the grapes grown in Canada are grown in the Niagara Peninsula. Most of these vineyards are either in, or close to the historic community of Niagara on the Lake. New York State ranks third among US States in grape production after California, and Washington. The largest wine regions in New York State are the Finger Lakes, and Long Island.

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I have a winery about 3 miles down the road from me, about has half way between Lake Ontario and the Finger Lakes which I guess puts it in the "other areas with wineries" on that map. I'm not a big wine drinker but like everyone in my wife's family (except us) has a camp or cottage or something on Seneca Lake which is the largest of the Finger Lakes so I know the Seneca wine trail very well. Over the last decade though more breweries and distilleries have been popping up along the trail and some wineries have decided to branch out. One of my favorites is Wagner Valley which started as a winery but their brewery has almost started to eclipse the winery and has really upped their game the last few years. Their Sled Dog Dopplebock, one of their few brews still around from when I first discovered them, is still one of my all-time favorites
 
Whadda think Craigerrr.....Ice Wine......is the juice worth the squeeze?? Or the freeze in this case! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Ward Chillington said:
Whadda think Craigerrr.....Ice Wine......is the juice worth the squeeze?? Or the freeze in this case! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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I tried ice wine once, it is pretty much like it liquer to me, wicked sweet, like a dessert drink, not my thing at all. I don't have wine very often, but enjoy a nice red with a steak for instance. Shiraz or, pinot noir for instance. Don't care for white, rose, or sparkling wines.
 
Craigerrr said:
I tried ice wine once, it is pretty much like it liquer to me, wicked sweet, like a dessert drink, not my thing at all. I don't have wine very often, but enjoy a nice red with a steak for instance. Shiraz or, pinot noir for instance. Don't care for white, rose, or sparkling wines.
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We went to a wine dinner nearby. As luck would have it, there was one degree of separation, my ex-wife, between us. It wasn't one of the wines on the list but he gave us samples of his Reisling Eiswein. The stuff was amazing. I've tasted a lot of grape jelly ice wines but this, at $260 per bottle, was in a class of its own.
 
From our recent mini trip to Port Stanley on the north shore of Lake Erie, we happened along this mural commemorating a historic ship wreck. The "Mineral State" was delivering 620 tons of iron ore from Cleveland, which was destined for London Ontario.

This is the text on the mural pictured below.
I didn't have the presence of mind to snap a picture, I got this from a google search, no idea who those nice people are...

On October 29, 1902, in a savage Lake Erie Gale, the three masted American Schooner “Mineral State” went aground and started to break up off the clay bluffs east of the Port Stanley Harbor. The gallant Port Stanley life saving crew watched by a large crowd of Port Stanley Residents, braved the towering waves and rescued the entire crew of the schooner just as dusk was falling. In recognition of their bravery, the life saving crew all received gold medals from US President Theodore Roosevelt.

My google search for Jackson's Fish Market seems to indicate that it is now permanently closed.


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The full Mural below.

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On Mondays and Thursdays I go all the way up to Newfane and then Somerset NY on lake Ontario on my vending route so I drive down and then back up the Niagara escarpment. Fortunately with all our winter storms this year none of the times I've gone up there the roads were bad. I had one of our office administrators ask me if it was really that big of a "hill". Yeah you can see from the pic kinda how dramatic of a drop off it is. On a mostly unrelated note I'm wearing my shorts to work for the first time this year today :D
 
Craigerrr said:
I thought that this was a cool graphic of the relative depth and elevations of the great lakes.
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They way they stuck Lake Michigan in there makes me think someone was in a hurry and when he handed it in someone said "Ya know Bob, there are actually five Great Lakes"! o_O
 
BarbarianBrewer said:
They way they stuck Lake Michigan in there makes me think someone was in a hurry and when he handed it in someone said "Ya know Bob, there are actually five Great Lakes"! o_O
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I think that the illustration has more to do with the elevation above sea level, Huron and Michigan are similar enough not to make a distinction, or at least it seems. Michigan is of course a "great" lake! The only Great Lake that does not form part of the longest undefeated border in the world, the border between our two Great Nations!
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