Bitterness aftertaste

[Mastoras007]

i forgot to menthion this loL
is posible to need just more time?
is cold crashed and i just keg it

 

[Bigbre04]

i forgot to menthion this loL
is posible to need just more time?
is cold crashed and i just keg it

so if you force carbonate, you will get a slightly sharper bitterness from the formation of carbonic acid. This will fall out(or break down? dunno) fairly quickly(hours) after you finish carbing.

Yeast also can be described as bitter. it can also give people upset stomachs if there is a ton of it in suspension.

 

[Brew Cat]

Doesn't sound like hop bitterness. Magnum a good bittering hop. Sounds like a water problem. Really shouldn't add anything to your water unless you have a reason. Simple thing is add a couple of gallons of distilled water. Your not using municipal water are you?

 

[Craigerrr]

i forgot to menthion this loL
is posible to need just more time?
is cold crashed and i just keg it

Definitely give it more time, as JA mentioned yeast does have a bitterness to it that I find unpleasant.
Let it finish, cold crash for at least a few days, then sample it and keg it.

 

[Dave Y]

so if you force carbonate, you will get a slightly sharper bitterness from the formation of carbonic acid. This will fall out(or break down? dunno) fairly quickly(hours) after you finish carbing.

Yeast also can be described as bitter. it can also give people upset stomachs if there is a ton of it in suspension.

Agree! sampling the beer from the fermenter is like the Pirate Code ; More like what you might call guidelines than actual rules. If I get an off flavor or aroma, I will put the sample in a freezer for a short while to get the sediment to drop out of suspension and then sample it.
I thought this was already out of the fermenter.

Definitely give it more time, as JA mentioned yeast does have a bitterness to it that I find unpleasant.
Let it finish, cold crash for at least a few days, then sample it and keg it.

This.

 

[Mastoras007]

Doesn't sound like hop bitterness. Magnum a good bittering hop. Sounds like a water problem. Really shouldn't add anything to your water unless you have a reason. Simple thing is add a couple of gallons of distilled water. Your not using municipal water are you?

i'm using municipal water! But carbon filtered! We have good water here you can drink it as it is no need filter

 

[Bigbre04]

i'm using municipal water! But carbon filtered! We have good water here you can drink it as it is no need filter

It's worth getting your water tested for minerals. Water chemistry is important. Generally you can get away without adding much to municipal water, but getting it tested is usually pretty cheap and can tell you alot.

Without testing the water I wouldn't add brewing salts.

Reminds me that I need to get mine tested again and do a deep dive on chemistry because I'm pretty sure the calculator isn't right for my setup.

 

[Craigerrr]

i'm using municipal water! But carbon filtered! We have good water here you can drink it as it is no need filter

it is also good to know what your municipality treats your water with, if it is chloromine a standard carbon filter may not be sufficient.
my municipality uses chloromine, and draws from 3 different sources.
for this reason I buy RO water so I know what I am starting with.
you could just add a campden tablet, which I believe is potassium or sodium metabisulfite

I agree 100% with @Bigbre04 if you don't have a water ion report, I would not add any salts to it

From the webs
Yes, carbon filters can remove chloramine from water, but it requires specific types and conditions. A regular activated carbon filter can remove chlorine, but it's less effective for chloramine due to its stability. For effective chloramine removal, you need high-quality granular activated carbon and sufficient contact time, or you may need a more advanced carbon filter like catalytic carbon

 

[Dave Y]

THIS. I had a former house with ‘municipal water’ with a lot of additives and while my yeast would work, it wasn’t always happy about it and sometimes didn’t fully finish. This was back when I was reasonably new to the hobby and when I got new digs, I got better water - for brewing anyway. A water report will definitely help answer whether or not you need better treatment for the water or not.

 

[Craigerrr]

THIS. I had a former house with ‘municipal water’ with a lot of additives and while my yeast would work, it wasn’t always happy about it and sometimes didn’t fully finish. This was back when I was reasonably new to the hobby and when I got new digs, I got better water - for brewing anyway. A water report will definitely help answer whether or not you need better treatment for the water or not.

Chlorine or Chloromine give an off flavor to your beer as well, eliminating it will immensely improve the end product.

 

[Mastoras007]

I will buy RO for my next batch, probably will be a lager so is better to use RO.
but anyway today i keg the beer i give it a try and i think is improved, i will have better idea in a few days

 

[Mastoras007]

so i taste it today, i was shaking the keg with extra presure and is already carbonated beer is greate, probably needed just a little time ,
i thing is my best ale i have brew, yeast was 2nd generation and is already in the fridge waiting the 3rd batch, i'm really love reusing yeast every time i reuse beer is so clear taste, but i don't thing is because of reusing, is because first batch is not enough cells to have clear beer. i had pitched 11g to 15 liters of 1050-1052 wort, my next brew will be a lager but i will keep the yeast in the frige for 1-2 months to see what hapen wen i reuse it again!
Theanks for your advices! cheers!!!

 

[Bigbre04]

so i taste it today, i was shaking the keg with extra presure and is already carbonated beer is greate, probably needed just a little time ,
i thing is my best ale i have brew, yeast was 2nd generation and is already in the fridge waiting the 3rd batch, i'm really love reusing yeast every time i reuse beer is so clear taste, but i don't thing is because of reusing, is because first batch is not enough cells to have clear beer. i had pitched 11g to 15 liters of 1050-1052 wort, my next brew will be a lager but i will keep the yeast in the frige for 1-2 months to see what hapen wen i reuse it again!
Theanks for your advices! cheers!!!

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Very nice!

Don't worry about ro water. With ro water you have to add back the salts. If anything just spring or purified water.

Long run the best thing you can do is get your water tested and then adjust your process according to what you find.

I brew on the beach with fairly varying water. It changes because the population of the town fluctuates seasonally.

That being said, I have no filtration and just use city(beach) water. It's fairly hard(or soft I always forget which is which). So I am only throwing 20/20 cacl2 and gypsum. I can only really hit the balanced 1 readout in the software.

 

[Brew Cat]

I didnt realize you were drinking green beer. Never judge a beer before its done. When I say done I mean packaged and settled. Quick carbonated beer is still green. If you want to make good beer, give it a minuet. Municiple water has chlorine in it. Collect your water and leave it out and open overnight. Chlorine wants to be a gas so it will disipate out.

 

[Craigerrr]

I didnt realize you were drinking green beer. Never judge a beer before its done. When I say done I mean packaged and settled. Quick carbonated beer is still green. If you want to make good beer, give it a minuet. Municiple water has chlorine in it. Collect your water and leave it out and open overnight. Chlorine wants to be a gas so it will disipate out.

Unless your municipality uses chloromine, chloromine will not off gas over night, it is much more "stable".
My municipal water is treated with chloromine, and lots of it, the smell is wicked strong.

 

[Brew Cat]

Well if you're smelling it it's somewhat off gassing no?

 

[Craigerrr]

Well if you're smelling it it's somewhat off gassing no?

I can't argue your point.
How much longer will it take to off gas, I really have no idea
Here is a bit of info on Chloromine.

• Longer-lasting disinfection:
  Chloramines are formed when chlorine and ammonia are mixed under specific conditions in a water treatment plant. They are more stable than free chlorine, meaning they stay in the water longer and provide more effective disinfection as the water travels through pipes to consumers.

 

[Brew Cat]

Doesn't sound like something I want in my beer or my water bottle

 

[BarbarianBrewer]

I think brewing a batch with RO water is an excellent idea. Even if you don't plan to do that long term, it will help to determine how much your municipal water is impacting your beer. And definitely get your water tested; especially if you plan to sell your beer.

 

[Zambi]

Not all municipal water has chlorine or chloramides.
Check with the supplier