2024_07_31 Vienna/Marzen Beer Recipe | All Grain Vienna Lager | Brewer's Friend
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2024_07_31 Vienna/Marzen

194 calories 18.9 g 12 oz
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Beer Stats
Method: All Grain
Style: Vienna Lager
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 10 gallons (fermentor volume)
Pre Boil Size: 13 gallons
Pre Boil Gravity: 1.045 (recipe based estimate)
Post Boil Gravity: 1.059 (recipe based estimate)
Efficiency: 87% (brew house)
Source: Mark and Paul
Calories: 194 calories (Per 12oz)
Carbs: 18.9 g (Per 12oz)
Created: Friday July 26th 2024
1.059
1.013
6.0%
25.2
12.1
5.5
n/a
 
Fermentables
Amount Fermentable Cost PPG °L Bill %
6.50 lb German - Vienna6.5 lb Vienna 37 4 34.6%
6.50 lb Munich - Light 10L6.5 lb Munich - Light 10L 33 10 34.6%
5.50 lb German - Floor-Malted Bohemian Pilsner5.5 lb Floor-Malted Bohemian Pilsner 38 1.8 29.2%
5 oz American - Chocolate5 oz Chocolate 29 350 1.7%
18.81 lbs / 0.00
 
Hops
Amount Variety Cost Type AA Use Time IBU Bill %
1.50 oz Perle1.5 oz Perle Hops Pellet 5.6 Boil 60 min 16.69 30%
2 oz Styrian Goldings2 oz Styrian Goldings Hops Pellet 2.5 Boil 20 min 6.02 40%
1.50 oz Hallertau Mittelfruh1.5 oz Hallertau Mittelfruh Hops Pellet 2.3 Boil 10 min 2.49 30%
5 oz / 0.00
 
Mash Guidelines
Amount Description Type Start Temp Target Temp Time
-- 143 °F 30 min
-- 153 °F 30 min
-- 168 °F 10 min
Starting Mash Thickness: 1.33 qt/lb
 
Other Ingredients
Amount Name Cost Type Use Time
6 g Chalk Water Agt Mash 1 hr.
2 g Calcium Chloride (dihydrate) Water Agt Mash 1 hr.
8 g Epsom Salt Water Agt Mash 1 hr.
1.50 ml Lactic acid Water Agt Mash 1 hr.
 
Yeast
White Labs - Oktoberfest/Märzen Lager Yeast WLP820
Amount:
1 Each
Cost:
Attenuation (custom):
78%
Flocculation:
Medium
Optimum Temp:
52 - 58 °F
Starter:
No
Fermentation Temp:
50 °F
Pitch Rate:
0.35 (M cells / ml / ° P) 192 B cells required
White Labs - German Lager Yeast WLP830
Amount:
1 Each
Cost:
Attenuation (custom):
78%
Flocculation:
Medium
Optimum Temp:
50 - 55 °F
Starter:
No
Fermentation Temp:
50 °F
Pitch Rate:
0.35 (M cells / ml / ° P) 192 B cells required
0.00 Yeast Pitch Rate and Starter Calculator
Priming
CO2 Level: 2.65 Volumes
 
Target Water Profile
EBMUD - LT
Ca+2 Mg+2 Na+ Cl- SO4-2 HCO3-
27 15 10 15 60 80
"I sure hate to see the propagation of misinformation and this is another example. The Vienna profile published by Palmer is not even in the ball park! The profile published by Daniels is not too bad with a caveat.

The water source for Vienna is the same today as it was about the time that Dreher created the Vienna style. It is debatable if he used the new water source from the Alps or if he used the previous source. The previous source was groundwater drawn from sand and gravel aquifers along the Danube River.

The water quality today is exactly as it was when the aqueduct from the Alps was constructed. The City did not perform any water treatment back then and they still don't. That profile (taken directly from the City's website) is:

Ca 75 ppm
Mg 15 ppm
Na 10 ppm
SO4 60 ppm
Cl 15 ppm
HCO3 225 ppm

As those of you who know water recognize, this is an alkaline water with high temporary hardness. It would work for dark beers (RA = 124), but would not produce the fine amber Vienna style. Many of you also know that one of the earliest water treatment methods available to brewers of yore was boiling to decarbonate the water and drop the temporary hardness. The boiled water profile can be estimated fairly accurately. The boiled profile is as follows:

Ca 27 ppm
Mg 15 ppm
Na 10 ppm
SO4 60 ppm
Cl 15 ppm
HCO3 80 ppm

The boiled profile now has a RA of about 45, which is pretty good for amber beers. As you can see, the boiled profile does agree with the information presented by Daniels (yeah Ray!).

I wouldn't worry too much about duplicating any water profile quoted for any location since water quality varies naturally and being within about 10 ppm of any of those ion concentrations is probably not going to be noticeable.

There you go! Brew your next Vienna with the boiled Vienna profile to produce great beer."
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Notes

Made one 4.3 1.043 starter out of the WL830 and the calculator said that was enough. Will pitch the 820 as well for grins.

Mash as shown - color seems nice and there is a little roast in the aroma. didn't measure pH.

(Used Morebeer's Munich Dark, with a L of 10. That corresponds with this recipe's calculator of Munich Light 10L so that's what I put in the calculator, but that's not what I bought!)

First runnings:1.079
Last: 1.007
Added 1 g. to get to pre-boil of 1.046, only .001 high from desired. Had a boilover plus using the 22g pot made the wort much higher density than it would have been w/ only a 60 min boil. Also only collected 9g.
OG - 1.059

Cooled in fermenter to 45 - pitched about 7 hours later and fermented at 50. Once it fermented out to around 1.020 we raised it 5 deg a day to 68 and held for 6 days. Finished at 1.013 Down 5 deg/day as low as we could go and sat for around a week at 38 deg. Kegged clear and good. Very light hops and slight roasty flavor - nice light amber color.

Tasted really good - surprisingly popular at Ofest! Nice and dry - perhaps back off 20-25% on the chocolate malt. Almost perfect!


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