Fermenter Options

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I’ve been brewing for the past few years in a Fast Fermenter without any real issues.

Some of my beers have been pretty good, others not so much.

I’d like to try and improve my beer through fermentation control and to that end have been thinking about a different fermenter.

There are a few used ones in my area and I’d like some opinions from more experienced brewers on which one might be best.

Here are some things that I think are important to the decision.

Trying to accomplish this in the most cost effective way.

I keg….

I brew 8-10 batches per year.

I have never harvested yeast, but I do like removing the yeast collection cup from the fast fermenter before transferring to the keg.

Next to temp control, I really would like to graduate from gravity feed into closed transfer of the beer - fermenter to keg. In fact I’m really interested in keeping the entire fermenting process closed if possible.

Option 1. Add a cooling coil and heat blanket to the fast fermenter and keep on brewing. This would definitely be the most cost effective method, but I don’t think closed transfers are an option. Total cost for this option is $125.00

Option 2. I found a Legacy SS Brewtech Chronical with a domed lid and single 1.5 TC port or $200.00. It’s the original chronical, not the updated version. I could add the cooling coil through a stopper in the TC port and purchase a heating pad for a total of approximately $125.00. This is not the SS Brewtech FTSS set up which is over $300.00. I like the conical, but it seems limiting with a single port domed lid….. With this option total cost would be $325.00

Option 3: I found a Spike Flex with a pressure lid, beer transfer manifold (not the pressure fermenting set up), cooling coil, heating pad, jacket, thermowell, tc clamps/gaskets. $350.00…. I do like this set up, but it’s not a conical.

I am going to try the cooler cold water method and already have an inkbird, hoses and pump so none of those items are reflected in the above prices.

We already have two refrigerators, a large food freezer and a keezer so I don’t have the space to add a fermentation chamber (wish I could).

If you were me, which option would you take?
 
I’ve been brewing for the past few years in a Fast Fermenter without any real issues.

Some of my beers have been pretty good, others not so much.

I’d like to try and improve my beer through fermentation control and to that end have been thinking about a different fermenter.

There are a few used ones in my area and I’d like some opinions from more experienced brewers on which one might be best.

Here are some things that I think are important to the decision.

Trying to accomplish this in the most cost effective way.

I keg….

I brew 8-10 batches per year.

I have never harvested yeast, but I do like removing the yeast collection cup from the fast fermenter before transferring to the keg.

Next to temp control, I really would like to graduate from gravity feed into closed transfer of the beer - fermenter to keg. In fact I’m really interested in keeping the entire fermenting process closed if possible.

Option 1. Add a cooling coil and heat blanket to the fast fermenter and keep on brewing. This would definitely be the most cost effective method, but I don’t think closed transfers are an option. Total cost for this option is $125.00

Option 2. I found a Legacy SS Brewtech Chronical with a domed lid and single 1.5 TC port or $200.00. It’s the original chronical, not the updated version. I could add the cooling coil through a stopper in the TC port and purchase a heating pad for a total of approximately $125.00. This is not the SS Brewtech FTSS set up which is over $300.00. I like the conical, but it seems limiting with a single port domed lid….. With this option total cost would be $325.00

Option 3: I found a Spike Flex with a pressure lid, beer transfer manifold (not the pressure fermenting set up), cooling coil, heating pad, jacket, thermowell, tc clamps/gaskets. $350.00…. I do like this set up, but it’s not a conical.

I am going to try the cooler cold water method and already have an inkbird, hoses and pump so none of those items are reflected in the above prices.

We already have two refrigerators, a large food freezer and a keezer so I don’t have the space to add a fermentation chamber (wish I could).

If you were me, which option would you take?
I have one of the original chronicals and really like it. You can add a coil for cooling in this way as well. does require some holes, but works. $200 is steal
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If you were me, which option would you take?
I ferment in modified Sanke kegs. I started with Corny kegs and wanted a full 5 gallons, so I went to a 7.5 gallon keg. I did it for the reasons you did, closed transfers, plus spunding, etc.

I said it before here, but the best thing about kegs is that they can be pressurized (125psi Corny, 55psi Sanke), Corny's are easy to clean and fairly cheap. They both are stainless and can be repurposed for serving. Both can used as a spunding vessel, closed transfers are easy with a floating pickup. Both have handles and fit in tight spaces. Both can be used as a unitank and serve from the fermenter if you choose.

I will never go back. Here is the floating pick up:

https://www.williamsbrewing.com/Hom...nt/Keg-Accessories/Top-Draw-Beer-Pick-Up-Tube

Here is an adapter for Sanke kegs. I use a tall 7.5 gallon as my vessel:

https://www.morebeer.com/products/b...DZpfd99BeyTnRYjCH8Oni4YivI6sL8A8aAlpyEALw_wcB

That's my 2 cents and it's may not be even be worth that.

Edit: They both can be sold easy enough too, should you decide to quit brewing.
 
Your .02 cents so I feel like I got a bargain!

I thought about corny’s and I’d be okay with 4.5 gallons (although I’ve read some people ferment at the full 5 gallons). How do you dry hop in a corny or snake? Do you just open the lid and add them?
 
Your .02 cents so I feel like I got a bargain!

I thought about corny’s and I’d be okay with 4.5 gallons (although I’ve read some people ferment at the full 5 gallons). How do you dry hop in a corny or snake? Do you just open the lid and add them?
You can open them or suspend a hop bag with magnet. Remove magnet it falls in
 
You can open them or suspend a hop bag with magnet. Remove magnet it falls in
Oh I forgot about that option!

You use a fermentation chamber/fridge to control temperature in your kegs?
 
Do you pressure transfer with your chronical?
It has a limit of 3psi, but yes you can. Did it for for first time a week ago. Took about 5 minutes
 
Oh I forgot about that option!

You use a fermentation chamber/fridge to control temperature in your kegs?
No, I use a glycol system with a heat stick in the fermenter
 
It has a limit of 3psi, but yes you can. Did it for for first time a week ago. Took about 5 minutes
Sorry for all the questions - do you have the flat lid or domed?

If you have the domed lid, how did you set up the pressure transfer?
 
Your .02 cents so I feel like I got a bargain!

I thought about corny’s and I’d be okay with 4.5 gallons (although I’ve read some people ferment at the full 5 gallons). How do you dry hop in a corny or snake? Do you just open the lid and add them?
I added an extra gas port to the Sanke keg. I vent co2 and add co2 at the same time. This leaves a slightly positive pressure when the top of the keg is open. It would be a little tougher with a corny keg.

It seems to work well.
 
Sorry for all the questions - do you have the flat lid or domed?

If you have the domed lid, how did you set up the pressure transfer?
I have both actually. I used to have the brew bucket, and the lids are interchangeable.

I installed 2.5" triclamp in the lid. Then made that adapter for a ball lock.
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Kegland Allrounder, low cost, spund or pressure ferment, closed transfers, takes beer off the top (keeps trub and hop debris out of your keg). The visual is nice too.

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